In a discussion in which I explore once again the confusion of an Islam representative, and it thoroughly by an Islamic participants pick get
you should not with words, you do not understand the reason to talk about things you do not understand. It is striking, even if you do not notice a thing.
considered to be another participant
If you look at first a hour for must justify, because it criticizes ( tactics Level 3 ), then begs the question of whether it was not his time to spend productively .
I do not mean that the time is lost.
I see the sport.
Not that I thought to convince such people - They offer but for a training material for argument and analysis, and second, they demonstrate the mechanisms in their ganglia.
Without such a shadow boxing I would have had some knowledge about Islam and its effect before. Also, I would have never figured out why the development has proceeded in the West in the last 1000 years so positive.
Or would you know,
- was that the honest discourse of truth in discourse elaborated in the Middle Ages? That one before - as do the representatives of Islam still - like a proof of a predetermined result led?
- That the Trivium and quadrivium of Boethius by the churches of Europe spread and has been increased interest in Aristotle led - which led to trips to the libraries of Byzantium and Toledo?
- fact that the Western invention of the body was right - Universitas - to the independent universities and independent research conducted, but also to the companies, the base that is our form of economy, and thus the basis of our economy.
- That the church law based on the structured Roman law, the basis for our systematic and legal basis for the idea of a state in the modern sense was it?
- that since the Middle Ages, the Church sees reason as the divine attributes, which means that the World is designed properly, which means that one can explore how it works, which carried the science drastically? (.. And the Renaissance was the result)
I'm learning the representatives of Islam grateful for the impulse to learn more about the development of religion, spirit and economy, and the mental condition to understand better.
The thinking that results from the Islam, where the result of any investigation it is eh, where Allah's word on the reason and the knowledge with the Islamic thought are all the achievements of our time - from science and technology, human rights - not possible.
Comical Ali for example, information ministers from Baghdad, who spoke of the victory, as was seen by rolling the American tank in front of him - this figure of fun with his denial of reality has a cultural basis - based in the Islamic way of thinking.
Thanks Comical Ali & Co. I know now founded: the West - all you can attack with envy and hate on what they call the West - that the West is simply cool.
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reading for those interested:
Michael Mitterauer: Why Europe. Medieval foundations of a special path
Toby E. Huff: The Rise of Early Modern Science
Edward Grant: Foundations of Modern Science in the Middle Ages
settler history of Europe - Christians, Jews, Moslems
"Contribution of Islam to the development of Western culture ": zero. click me or me
The West owes to Islam nothing click me
Islam, the Greeks and the Scientific Revolution: click me